Pop Music is Stuck on Repeat | Colin Morris | TEDxPenn



Using foundational computer science theories, Colin Morris focuses on understanding trends in popular music. Borrowing from the areas of bioinformatics and …

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  1. Music has gotten so bad that the music industry is sending someone in to convince you that this is what is best. I have nothing against pop, it has it's uses, like when you are depressed and need to be cheered up, but don't want to think either. When I want to truly feel something though, I can't stand pop, I turn to rock, blues, very specific types of rap songs that actually have a message, and even classical sometimes. Each genre has its use.

  2. 11:20 Except you copy-pasted that 1 bass line like 6 times, ignoring the 8 other voices that are unique using counterpoint, just to make a 3min pop song equal to a 2 hour mass written for a dozen instruments

  3. Something I deduced on my own a long time ago, was that older songs were about telling a story, and more modern ones less so; and also about repetition, I figured that a repetitive song has more chance to be liked by more ppl, since if the part of the song you happen to like, is the repetitive part, then you'll have plenty of it before the song ends, whereas in a song that doesn't repeat anything, it becomes harder for one person to like the whole song, most likely they will only like a few parts, which then they'll have to wait until they hear the song again to hear the parts they liked. So in that sense, it seems logical to make songs that repeat themselves.

  4. "Today's music sucks! BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY!" is such a banal platitude at this point that I assume anyone saying it has limited knowledge about music history or lacks the capacity to create a more compelling argument. And they all say it like it's such a hot take. No, you're just parroting what Rolling Stone magazine has been shoveling own our throats for decades about pop and rock music. Literally almost every comment here is "This video was going to challenge my opinion and that scared me so I clicked away." They are the exact people they claim to despise. It's this kind of elitist attitude that has contributed to the fall from grace of rock music. Rock fans killed rock and they're trying to pin it on everyone else.

  5. did you use middle-out compression? the repitition is probably due to formulaic/algorithmic structure as a function of radio and money. the same as for films. more – samer for money money.

  6. So, hooks are very important to a song's value to the listener. Beethoven started with "dit-dit-dit-dah" and repeated that throughout the entire symphony. The problem with "pop" is there is not enough meat on the bones to satisfy the ear after a couple of listenings.

  7. To me the lyrics is 5% of a good song, the music is what counts. You don't even need to understand the song (could be in another language than your own) but we can all 'understand' the music. And modern music has become more and more simplistic since the 80' 🙁

  8. The repetitive song is pretty terrible, namely pop songs in the fact the lyrics, rhythm, and writing is all meant to be catchy. Don't say that we like these songs genuinely, because we don't. Saying that we like them because psychology is obvious but we don't really like them. Songs with meaningful, original, and rhythmic tunes are the ones that should be observed as good music. Your argument destroys itself.

  9. Maybe I should start using excel as my preferred media player. Catchy doesn’t mean interesting, it just means a basic part of your brain responds without you consciously asking it to.

  10. soooo because a lot of people thinks its bad, its not bad? but its god, because you can find rythem ind old classics, that mimics repetion but not complexity! … TEDx for you :p

  11. I feel his conclusion based on, more commercial succes = bette song is false… Its easier to sell, and gets faster forgotten and is also easier thrown away again. I would like to see him incorporate a metric, on succes for 10+ year old songs based on repetitiveness or some other way to calculate whats a good song. And his psychological paper is also vastly misrepresented, The effect called mere exposure effect, is proven that you like something more when you get introduced to it multiple times, so if its the samesong over and over again, yes the brain likes it more, because it can easier understand it effortlessly.

  12. 2:00 minutes in, I can save some time. Music business doesn't like to take risks so uses writers and artists that they can rely on to make sales. It takes about $400,000 to make a hit song through marketing and general force-feeding to the masses. Genuinely good music died a long time ago because no one will take a chance on an unknown performer or band regardless of how good they appear to be. Money sells.

  13. Yes kid, this is how music works…you wasted days, weeks, months doing all this nonsensical research on something that everyone who knows any basic music knowledge knows…like they teach this stuff in middle school music class dude lmfao

  14. I would think this reflects a nominal listener’s tendency to listen “lazily,” as opposed to one who has true appreciation of music.

    In an unrelated idea, the speaker looks like he listens to Norwegian Death Metal instead of Brittany. Lol

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